“Israel is not a democracy unless you are a Jew”
MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH
The Israelis write very beautiful article about freedom and liberty but they want to destroy anyone who criticises them for revealing the truth. The world must look and see what kind of democracy Israel is when one speaks out the truth.” – Mordechai Vanunu
Note for WoP readers: I was just watching the program Capital Talk on a local TV. The anchor Hamid Mir was interviewing two important persons who were aboard the Mavi Marmara aid ship, when it was attacked by the Israelis – while sailing in international waters.
Most important info that the reverend Rabbi David Weiss passed on, point-wise to Mir in Istanbul has been as under:-
1. I am a Jew but not a Zionist. Zionists created a state by force and that state is neither legal nor it stands in conformity to the teachings of Tora, the holy book of Judaism.
2. According to Jewish scriptures, Jews are the men of God and as such they would not seek any land but to serve the purpose for which they have been chosen by God i.e. to serve humanity without putting themselves permanently into a specific state structure or label of a specific country.
3. The state of Israel as well as the concept of Zionists’ national label under Israel, therefore, is not sanctioned by the Jewish religion.
4. When asked if he would again go to Gaza [when they already came under attack by the Zionists of Israel], the rabbi said, yes of course.
Now having listened to the views of Rabbi David Weiss, I got interested more into this Zionists vs. Jews debate and then through a good number of friends that I have on face book, was recommended an interview taken by Hesham Tillawi of another man again of Jewish faith but, who later converted to Christianity. Why! He explains in this in his interview. For those of you who may not be knowing M. Vanunu here is a brief from Wikipedia. [Nayyar]
Mordechai Vanunu; born 14 October 1954) is a former Israeli nuclear technician who, citing his opposition to weapons of mass destruction, revealed details of Israel’s nuclear weapons program to the British press in 1986. He was subsequently lured to Italy by a Mossad spy, where he was drugged and kidnapped by Israeli intelligence operatives.
He was transported to Israel and ultimately convicted in a trial that was held behind closed doors. Regarded by peace activists as a hero for taking a stand against weapons proliferation, Vanunu has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize many times.
Vanunu spent 18 years in prison, including more than 11 years in solitary confinement. Released from prison in 2004, he became subject to a broad array of restrictions on his speech and movement. Since then he has been briefly arrested several times for violations of those restrictions, including giving various interviews to foreign journalists and attempting to leave Israel.
He says that he suffered “cruel and barbaric treatment” at the hands of Israeli authorities while imprisoned, and suggests that his treatment would have been different if he had been Jewish [Vanunu is a Christian convert from Judaism].
In 2007, Vanunu was sentenced to six months in prison for violating terms of his parole. The sentence was considered unusual even by the prosecution who expected a suspended sentence. In response, Amnesty International issued a press release on 2 July 2007, stating that “The organisation considers Mordechai Vanunu to be a prisoner of conscience and calls for his immediate and unconditional release.”
In May 2010, Vanunu was again arrested and sentenced to three months in jail on suspicion that he met foreigners, violating conditions of his 2004 release from jail.
Vanunu has been characterized by some as a whistleblower and by others as a traitor. Daniel Ellsberg has referred to him as “the preeminent hero of the nuclear era”.
AND NOW THE INETRVIEW:-
This is a relatively current interview with a man imprisoned for 18 years, 11 in solitary confinement, for NOTHING but speaking the truth. My friend Hesham Tillawi interviews the infamous Mordechai Vanunu, a global hero, virtually unknown. The man who exposed Israel’s nuclear arsenal to the world. This took place in December of 2009 on the talk show current issues.
TILLAWI: Well, I do believe that we have Mordechai Vanunu with us…Mordechai, are you with us?
TILLAWI: Good Morning, I know that it is 4 o’clock in the morning there in Jerusalem. Folks, Mordechai Vanunu has spent 18 years in an Israeli jail for telling Israeli nuclear secrets. He was lured to Rome by Israeli agents and kidnapped and then sent back to Israel where he spent 18 yrs in prison and 11 of those years in solitary confinement. That is true, Mordechai?
VANUNU: Yes, that is right.
TILLAWI: Now, Mordechai, I have a question for you. What was it that you really felt that you must tell the world about, what was it about the Israeli nuclear program that you felt to yourself, `you know I cannot continue like this, I cannot remain silent on this, I have got to tell the world about it.’ What was it?
VANUNU: Well, the most important point is that it was the same situation that we have right now, namely that these people continue to lie and to cheat the world as well as their own citizens by denying the truth, by declaring that they do not have atomic weapons while at the same time I was working there helping to produce them. At that time there were more than 200 atomic weapons, in 1986, and it was at that time that they started to produce the most horrible of all weapons, the hydrogen bomb…all of this in secret, in lying and in cheating the world and all of its citizens. So I said to myself `It is impossible to keep these secrets. I must report about them and to try and stop it.’
TILLAWI: Mordechai, there are a lot of nations that have nuclear weapons. What is it about Israel having them that makes you so nervous?
VANUNU: Because Israel wants to use them, to cause genocide and holocaust on other innocent citizens. It has always been a part of Israel’s secret policy. And also by having them, Israel will use them as a threat to avoid making peace with the Arab world as well as imposing her policies on those peoples. As long as she has them, she will continue on in her policies of not making peace, of occupation and of neglecting the Palestinian suffering caused by the refugee camps that have existed for more than 50 years.
TILLAWI: One of the Israeli professors said a few months ago that ‘we have the nuclear capability of hitting every major European city,’ is that true to your knowledge?
VANUNU: Yes, it is true. They can bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States, and by this threat what they are doing is to send a secret message to any leader and to any government that they have the ability to use them aggressively and to blackmail them, to blackmail Europe and the United States, everywhere, in every state around the world. It was Europe and the United States who helped them get this power, and now that Israel has it, she is coming back and saying to them ‘We will not obey any orders that you give us. No international law, no international agreement, no UN resolutions,’ and all because of these atomic weapons that they have. …
TILLAWI: … What made Mordechai Vanunu betray his country and then change his religion?
VANUNU: Yes, this is a very good question and very important. You are right, it is not usual to have a person come to these hard conclusions. As far as my conversion, it started at the very early age of 15 or 16. I was raised in the Jewish religion and in a Jewish family. Israel and Judaism were considered as one nation, one big family, one tribe. I began criticizing and rejecting Judaism over the point of view that these Jews are teaching injustice through their Judaism. In the same way that Jesus Christ also criticized Judaism 2,000 years ago, I was unwilling to accept what they teach, and later converted to the opposite of Judaism.
The Jewish tribe teaches that there is only one Chosen people of God. They teach of their superiority, taking literally word-by-word the writings in the old bible. And I decided therefore that after 2,000 years these ideas were nonsense. There are 6 billion people around the world, and all of them are equal, all are part of the human race. There is no such thing as a super race. We should all respect and love each other, and that was the beginning of my rejecting Judaism and my accepting of Christianity, of following the teachings of Jesus Christ and of accepting humanity.
I am not a religious man, I am not going to become a priest. I did all of this for my humanity and for my beliefs. So, I chose my own way and began criticizing the Jewish faith. Those who teach Judaism run the lives of those under them, telling them what they must do every hour of every day, issuing many orders about everything, from waking up in the morning to going to sleep, but at the same time they do not teach them to respect other human beings, to accept non-Jews and to believe that non-Jews are like them.
They teach that only the Jews are the chosen people. So, this is Judaism, a collection of primitive traditions thousands of years old that have not changed. The world has changed in the last 2,000 years and the Jewish people need to accept and understand this change, and especially if they want a democratic country. You cannot have a state and run it as they did 2,000 years ago. They came to Palestine in the name of the Bible and in the name of their god and took this land that was promised to them thousands of years ago. In the name of this god, they took the land, expelled the people and gave them hard, cruel, barbaric lives for the last 60 years. This way of thinking, this faith cannot exist within this new age, and it was this that also led me to expose Israel’s nuclear secrets.
TILLAWI: Mordechai, you have been living amongst the Palestinians for a while now. What do you think, are they the terrorists that we have all been hearing about?
VANUNU: I have been living amongst the Palestinians now for 15 months, but I have been following the Palestinian situation now since the 1980’s. Now I am here living among them, watching them, meeting with them, eating with them, enjoying life with them and seeing how the Israelis have succeeded in portraying them all over the world as terrorists. But this is not true. They are very peaceful people and lovers of peace. …
TILLAWI: So, why are we after Iran then to open its doors to inspections, but no one is asking Israel to do the same? Why is that?
VANUNU: This is a very strange situation that has been developed and accepted by the Western states since the 1960’s. It goes back about 40 years. My view is that Europe and America are and have been under a long-term agenda of blackmail by the Israelis. In the first case, the Israelis constantly bring up the Holocaust and what happened to the Jews during WWII, blaming the West for it and then using this as the justification for possessing nuclear weapons as a way of preventing this from ever happening again. …(9) Mordechai Vanunu says Nazi Holocaust used as “propaganda” to blackmail the West The World Today (ABC Radio, Australia) Wednesday, 29 September , 2004
MORDECHAI VANUNU: Maybe the real fear is that my free spirit, my free belief to express my views in politics, in everything, not only nuclear secrets, I have many interesting views and I’m telling them without fear and expressing that to anyone in all the world, in all the media, and that is not good for Israel. They don’t like it, and also, the Israeli Government and state have teached all the world, especially the west, Europe, United States, Australia, Canada, they teach them to fear and now to be under blackmail by Israeli propaganda of Holocaust and all this propaganda.
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